Who exactly have they ‘managed to sway’? And who was made to think about ‘the futility of attempts to impose on use their view of history’? Does anyone know what exactly he is referring to?

Also you do not even cite all the relevent information on the table. On page 122 the table continues and gives two more categories of deportees from the Baltic states.

Kulaks from Lithuania 1951- men 5,512, women 7,418 and children 516

From the Baltic states 1940-1941- men 3,576, women 8,878, and children 160.

If we compare the number of women and especially children deported in 1941 still alive in 1945 to the 1953 figures it is obvious that there is a huge decline. Most of which can be accounted for by excess mortality. The break down for Baltic deportees still alive in 1945 is listed in the last paragraph.

In the case of the deportees from Poland most of them were released. In the case of the Baltic deportees large numbers of them perished, particularly those deported in 1941. If you look at V.N. Zemskov, _Spetsposelentsy v SSSR, 1930-1960 (Moscow: Nauk, 2005), pp. 89-90 he notes that 389,041 Polish citizens were released by the Soviets from various forms of captivity in 1941-1942. Hence almost all the Poles deported in 1940-1941 were no longer special settlers by 1943. The figures for Polish deportees in 1953 refer to Soviet Poles deported in 1936 from Soviet Ukraine to Kazakhstan. See Zemskov’s article in SI from 1990, p. 17, endnote 23). These deportees were not from Poland, but ethnic Poles from Ukraine with Soviet citizenship.

Between 1942 and 1945 the number of “anti-Soviet elements” deported from the Baltic states, Moldova and E. Poland in 1941 in special settlements declined by almost half, 85,700 to around 43,000. (Zemskov, pp. 114-115). Since there are no records of any large scale releases of this contingent I think we can assume the vast majority perished. Also the surviving numbers in October 1945 are overwhelmingly women and children. Only 8,708 men versus 20,714 women and 13,677 children (Zemskov, p. 115). Like the 1948 and 1949 deportations over two thirds are women and children.

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http://www.ecsocman.edu.ru/images/pubs/2006/11/21/0000295644/1999_n4_p114-124doc.pdf

Table 3. “number/demography of special settlers on Jan 1 1953″:

polish (36045);
from baltic countries (sent from 1945-1948) 81158+39279+19520~160000.

i am not an expert on gulag, so comments are welcome.

“From the moment of annexing Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Western Ukraine, Western Belorussia, right bank Molodovia, and Northenrn Bukovina into the USSR until the start of the Great Patriotic War from these regions were deported , on our count close to 470 thousand people, of these on the order of 380-385 thousand – the result of a series of deportations of Poles and Polish citizens and more than 85 thousand – ‘anti-Soviet elements’ of various nationalities.”

V.N. Zemskov, Spetsposelentsy v SSSR, 1930-1960 (Moscow: Nauk, 2005), p. 91.

Again this information clearly proves that Oleg was knowingly attributing statements to V.N. Zemskov that Zemskov’s writings clearly refute. Over half a million people were deported from Poland and the Baltic states during the 1940s. The gender and age breakdown for 1945-1949 clearly show that close to two thirds were women and children. There is no reason to believe that women and children made up less than a quarter of the 1940-1941 deportations. Hence yes the Soviet government did deport hundreds of thousands of women and children from Poland and the Baltic states according to Zemskov.

If you are going to drop names please make the proper citations. In this case the name you cite clearly refutes your poing.

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Given that other data provided by Zemskov suggest that nearly two thirds of the deportees were women and children, this certainly provides good evidence of hundreds of thousands of women and children being deported from Poland and the Baltic states. If even a quarter are women and children it proves Oleg wrong. Why he deliberately and maliciously miscited Dr. Zemskov I do not know. But, Dr. Stone should certainly note this calculated falsification and take appropriate steps.

Thus from the three Baltic states there are a hundred thousand women and children who were deported. It reasonable to assume that at least a hundred thousand, a mere quarter, of the 389,382 Polish citizens deported or imprisoned by the Soviets in 1940 and 1941 were also women and children. (Bugai, doc. 16, p. 33). Especially being as that they make up almost two thirds the Baltic deportees.

I just did check Zemskov, for 1949 the number of special settlers from Poland and the Baltic States that are women and children are as follows as of 15 July 1949.

Deported from Baltic States in 1949 – 24, 022 men, 40,877 women and 26,305 children.

Deported from Lithuania 1945-1948 – 13,453 men, 19,698 women and 13,305 children.

Zemskov, “Spetsposelentsy (po dokumentatsii NKVD-MVD)”, SI, no. 1, 1990, table 7, p. 12.

He does not provide a breakdown by age or sex for the 1940-1941 deportations. But, if the ratios are the same for 1949 then yes the number of women and children deported from the Baltic states and Poland certainly exceeds two hundred thousand. He places the number of deportees during these times as follows.

The numbers below are from his 2005 book.

During 1940-1941 the number of deportees from Poland, Moldova and the Baltic states is listed at nearly 470,000 so yes if more than half are women and children then hundreds of thousands of women and children were derported. He breaks this figure down to 380,00-385,000 were Polish citizens in 1940 and 85,000 “anti-Soviet elements” of various nationalities from the Baltic States, Moldova and E. Poland in 1941. (Zemskov, p. 91).

Please read Zemskov before you wrongly site him. It is obvious that the majority of deportees were women and children from the Zemskov figures and that the deportations from Poland and the Baltic States in the 1940s exceeds a half a million people.

Isn’t it entirely up to Polish people to decide whether they were subjugated or not?

Is it a “question of interpretation” whether Germany sought o subjugate Russia? Maybe there are Germans (or others) who believe Germany sought to liberate Russia!